![]() Of course, you can't leave the old wet log inside a bison tube or a smaller nano, so I bring it home and add a note in our "Found" log asking the owner to let me know if they want the old log back. If I see several logs complaining about a wet log, or a log in a micro that has no more room to sign it, I bring along a replacement to put in the cache. I usually look at the previous logs online before we go out to find a cache. ![]() There are a lot of micro and nano caches around here, and of course the logs get filled up quickly, and sometimes they get wet if the rubber gasket has fallen off. needs maint because the grass was too long and I can show you the log lol. I think we only log a needs maint now (because we've learnt), if it's clearly missing (even then we've been bitten), or the container is cracked/broken. we would both be right a different times lol. Well look we could debate till the cows come home. The mark of a needs maintence I believe is. The logs do dry out even from sodden lumps. But this does not make the cache owner a poor cache owner/maintainer if they don't rush out to sort someone's opinion of damp log. Themed containers might not be watertight entirely. Finding it in the rain can cause moisture. Not closing the cache properly and trapping a bag edge breaks the seal. Sodden logs are less common and mush is maybe - 1 in 20 caches if that. Wet logs here in the UK are a matter of course. Or you do for your caching friends if you have spare logs. But in reality what happens is you do it for a while and then you kind of don't. The replaced log will likely also become soaked and ruined. Such a cache needs a NM since the container has a problem that requires attention. The OP states he wants to add logs to soaked ruined caches. But only those caches with an active owner and a quality cache container. Think of the people who spend gas money, hotel money, and vacation time to cache and would enjoy finding quality caches in your town. It's the smiley that counts and getting outdoors. I'm sure he feels that people make too much of a fuss about owner maintenance. He would very much thank you for adding a new logsheet. ![]() The photo is an example of one of his hides. We have a prolific hider in our parts that rarely maintains his caches but regularly hides more caches. But they will be grateful because it's normal human behaviour. ![]() Offer to send them a pic if they require it in your log that says you replaced it. There is no etiquette apart from that some CO's keep them to check to see if someone has lied about finding the cache. If you are the type of person to who is a kind person and wants to help and you feel like that would help. So basiclly ignore everything you read here and be yourself. You'll meet them at an event and you can get on. Say thank you and you've made a friend in the caching world. You would have had to go and replace that log a few miles down the road. As you've no doubt seen its probably deteriorated into "keeping a cache going that should have been archived because the owner has not maintained a cache". I've not read the whole thread so may be repeating what someone else has said. I may not want my caches replaced without permission but if my log is wet or chewed up from wear and tear, I would be thankful for a replacement. Or even Lock n Locks that might have something stuck in the seal. Decon containers many times I found only the front corners pressed down but the back corners are not, leaving a way for moisture. I agree but sometimes it could be a cacher who doesn't properly close the container. Will you be back to replace it again when there's a problem or will you also abandon the problem container you pseudo-adopted? If you replace a logsheet in a leaky container, that logsheet will also become a wet moldy mess. Let the space become available for someone who will hopefully take pride in their hides. If the cache is abandoned and already has NM logs, post 'Needs Archive' logs. People need to learn what works and what does not. If they use a poor quality container, their logsheet/book won't stay dry. If they hide micros (especially nanos) it means that there will likely be more maintenance required. When people hide caches they agree to a maintenance plan. Consider whether you are enabling poor cache ownership.
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